Farming Water

Message from Brian: #18

September 5 2020 7:57 AM


"What is farming water? Search engines are not helpful so far, so I am trying to imagine what this would be. Making natural water sources palatable by cleaning them? Identifying natural water sources that already are palatable and utilizing them? Constructing wells?"

Great questions. The way I picture farming water is utilizing a very small battery operated system that is tied to a hygrometer and an air pressure tank release, Storing excess energy in air pressure tanks from small closed systems of wind and solar inputs. The air tank itself would be the battery, meaning the wind system or solar system could be free of electricity completely. An important distinction to make because there is a loss of energy when mechanical energy is made into electricity, and electrical systems are subject to cataclysmic events like a Carrington event. Anyways, the air pressure stored up would run a pump that would either pump water directly from the source, or separate from it to mitigate loss, to a depth underground where the temperature would stay below the surface. Then condensation would do the rest. You'd put your coil for collection on pontoons so it would stay just above the surface. In winter, this is also possible on the inverse. Since your depth of temperature exchange should be set to a depth that remains constant, you could use your stored air pressure energy to keep a source liquid. This is the same strategy on a geothermal home, but I would use it for condensation collection. I'm in Oklahoma, and they have enormous amounts of wind here, high humidity, but not much rain. My originally planned idea was to use the top of pyramids for wind power collection straight into a pump, and the pool would be at the top slowly trickling downward toward all of the plants I'd like to grow on the slopes. It would collect into a moat that would be on the three northern facing slopes bases. The moat water would be the basis for my aquaponic system and it would help clean runoff water.

All of that is based on an ever running system with very little maintenance that is highly efficient and purely mechanical. This is the type of system that should be used for each community I was referring to. Slowly but surely people will figure out the different systems that produce this stored energy and how to utilize it. When wind is way down, use the stored up ethanol, etc etc. Implementing these systems will clean the environment and account for all of the human intrusion, but are very difficult to justify doing en masse. They make sense on a community level, but not a city level. Those are the methods that should be looked into for farms especially, right now. Considering what is happening with the Oglala and San Jaoquin reservoirs, and how much food those areas produce, those farmers better save their own asses now. This isn't the type of water production that will be huge and river producing at first, but it could get there in those areas at certain times. For a domicile, I would siphon water off of the moats and streams into an underground facility where I would have my scaled up Nitinol engine running a cavitation water heater for steam. I'd use the steam energy on a variation of Robert Green's steam engine design for various purposes. For me mainly machining like this fine gentleman... David Richards is his name and he has resored to perfect working condition, a 100% steam powered machine shop. This again would be a good use for biomass conversions from left over waste material from ethanol production, or when your trees are past productive stages. I would like to produce the bulk of this steam energy from a cavitation system powered by a Nitinol engine, though. The strands would need to be long, and woven together because of the fragility, but that is based on early data. There is an alloy possibility I've been considering trying, but the foundry process is complex for Nitinol. Every atom of titanium (Nitinol is 50% Titanium and 50% Nickel) that interacts with carbon or oxygen robs it from the mixture, and Nitinol has delicate tolerances. This means the process needs to be done in a vacuum chamber, with electricity as the melting agent. Induction melting, arc melting, etc. Once the process is mastered, which it already has, the maintenance concerns become a breeze to deal with, plus it gives other opportunities for complex alloys that are air oxidation sensitive. That's the kind of stuff I was building when all of this Christ situation happened. I'm a pretty busy guy, even when I'm forced to sit on my ass. I was just about to machine the cavitation water heater element, and my dog's leg started hurting him. It was walking him gingerly and building a ramp for the truck I owned when I had conceptualized the Holy Grail. I have a picture taken of it that I showed my now ex wife when I finished the ramp, just before we went out to dinner that Friday. Anyways, this was what I was doing when I became the Christ. I also have a wind generator upgrade that I was building the molds for. I was going to construct them of recycled milk jug tops, melted into wind generator sectional pieces. Horizontal not vertical. I really don't want to try to explain it like this and confuse you. It's better left to a whiteboard kind of conversation.

So, in essence, when I say farming water, I mean it from many different functions, and that is before I even talk about hydrogen production. That too should be engineered into the Nitinol motor. It should be reiterated, even though you've probably read this before, I am not talking about a small strand YouTube style Nitinol engine here. If that is the most economical production way, and my alloy idea doesn't work, the strands will be upwards of 40 feet long, with a few hundred fibers per strand. The torque would be slower but much more energy dense. I would gear up the speed through a simple gear that would be connected to the cavitation water heater to run at optimum speed. It too would be much larger than the YouTube version. If you were to get in the way of one of these strands flexing back unabated by the motor resistance itself, it would probably cut you in half. We're talking some serious torque. Very powerful. On that note, one of the steam engines could be dedicated to powering an HHO or just Hydrogen generator. I also have several upgrades to what I just said, but that kind of requires a whiteboard. I'd need to draw this out to properly explain it. The cavitation water heater and steam produced from it distill your water, by the way. Which is one of the few methods of removing radiation. There are also properties of cavitation that cleanse water in various ways. Although I would need to research this in real time for an accurate measurement of the total dissolved solids before and after cavitation, that is research that I don't think I'll have time for. Maybe...

It should be of note that when it comes to humidity being a problem indoors, and rejuvenating water, Johann Grander. I am not familiar with the rejuvenating water properties, but the humidity machines that function in a completely passive way sound fascinating to me. I'd like to study that further, but again, that is one of those things I just couldn't get to. Nonetheless, his studies are valid, and should be utilized moving forward in the home, and environment. Viktor Schauberger's work is also of note here. Many of these things are just simply not taught to anyone in any form of academia. Much less cavitation systems and resonance. One form of cavitation that should be used on a much larger scale but for smaller communities are hydraulic ram pumps for water storage and elevated micro hydro plants. A simple float valve rigged to fill and release similar to how a toilet flushes and you have a cavitation water pump powered micro hydro plant, off grid and autonomous. Wasteful, but only in drought areas. Up north, I'm sure there are all kinds of sources for hydraulic ram pumps or just plain old micro hydro. Again, the mechanical energy from the micro hydro plant could be directly connected to a cavitation water heater, or geared up/down for the optimal speed. I've seen most of this guy's videos, and have used them to explain to others what I was planning in Oregon for my property there. This particular video shows how much torque and power can be achieved. If the draw from the generator was instead put into a cavitation water heater sequence, the power could be amplified greatly and several steam engines could run easily, along with siphoning heat for the domicile, all while cleaning water for your aquaponic farm and refeeding vapor to your collection system on top of the pyramid. Just to reiterate, cavitation water heaters, when made large enough to suffice, are over unity/Divine. They should be added into any system that draws power, but it must be done at the individual level, and used for mechanical energy over electrical energy. THAT is the whole point here. Yes, use electricity on a closed system small scale way, but DO NOT build a system that relies on it. Might be a break in the ability to use it coming up shortly. I can neither confirm nor deny...


Message from Brian: #20

September 9 2020 1:46AM


I am a very big supporter of aquaponics. I had a very nice set up that I was planning installing myself before this all started. But even that requires meat to produce in any meaningful way. Plants to animals, and animals to plants. In a world of dwindling resources and starvation on the horizon, the animals must play a role in sustenance. They are imperative to sustaining any kind of land production. As far as the land goes, that will all depend on how much water you can produce. The water availability will decide how many animals any plot can sustain. That's why I'm also a huge supporter of water farming in those areas. Water is the largest factor in any land viability solution, other than aquaponics ironically. After the pyramids get built, I would build planter boxes, yes. I'm not too sure where the piezoelectric hypothesis started or why they think that particular motive exists for those structures, but that picture I posted some time ago is how I would design the gardens. Yes.

Weldon is taking 100% grassfed beef to a whole other level. I may or may not have prayed for them to get what they wanted... but that's beside the point. He really is the walking talking version of the scientific method in action. Grassfed beef fat cleans the blood system. Grainfed beef fat clogs it. It's really that simple. HE... as in Weldon Warren himself, is the proof. You really should read his story. It's quite spectacular, and I'm glad I can call him a friend. Shane has been teaching me a much more personal and scaled down method, and THAT is really what I am interested in. A few hundred of these types of setup surrounding a neighborhood of pyramids. All the pyramids farming water and spreading outward into the land. Weldon will probably make a lot of money in the near future, but his security may be at risk. The personal sustainable farmer who is part of a community of farmers all capable of producing their own food and energy while being able to protect it is the way of the future... if the future is going to happen.

Message from Brian: #22

September 9 2020 6:43PM


"Does your regenerative grazing method reduce the amount of land needed to raise cattle?"

No. What it does it make diversifying the land over several different animal species. Shane is going to implement chickens to clean up the grasshopper problems. Personally, I'd devise a catching system rigged to a simple vacuum and use the bugs for food in an aquaponics system, but that's his plan. For the stuff that the cows, then chickens, wouldn't eat, goats would clean up the material. Imagine the entire field is like a pizza where the three individually pinned species were ever moving around the circle, and all three were fertilizing the land as they cleaned it up of brush and insects. In the middle is the water system. Shane can accomplish this right now, but the time dedication is too intense. That is the main reason why I want to start farming water there. To have it on demand when the sun is plentiful. He's connected to a well system right now. An underground river system from what I understand of it. Not enough to water the land, but enough to keep the cows watered. He does use hay, but the ground he gets it from grows wild. It's not perfect by any means, but is sustainable and efficient as all hell. His land looks wild because it is. Most cattlemen just turn them loose on the entire property. Their land is eaten down to the point of it looking like a lawn. That's a problem for the various other creatures native to the area that handle other problems. . Shane has badgers, coyotes, rabbits, snakes, horny toads, road runners, fox, all kinds of birds (a few he built houses for), deer and all kinds of insects. It's healthy. The cow poop doesn't even make it three or four days above ground there. The dung beetles have returned in huge numbers. Even I was astonished at how fast they work. The entire property could be vacated of farming right now and be designated wild territory. That is true stewardship. Complementing the land as it is naturally, and extracting the "profits." That is when you are doing BETTER... than equilibrium. If/when I am able to start working on my windmills, I'll be able to install some sort of air pressure system, then his entire farm energy can be off grid, sustainable, plentiful, and with a bad motherfucker protecting it. I feel very sorry for the man that tries to fuck with Shane after the collapse. It will not turn out well. I forgot to mention his fencing system (electric) is run on a solar panel. 1 small one connected to a battery. The pumps are also run by it, so his water is already off grid, technically.



February 24 2021 1:53AM


I found a couple videos you might enjoy. The "farming water" thing... A while ago (years) I watched a kickstarter campaign about a device called Warka Water. That's where the idea originated from initially that I was going to implement on my Oregon property. The upgrade I was going to implement was a wind generator that would pump water through a manifold submerged at the bottom of my pond. It was very deep so the temperature would remain cooler than the ambient air temperature. The condensation would collect and drip right into the pond with no loss of the pumped water. Geo thermal, but utilizing the water to cool the exchanger instead of air. I got the idea from the Warka apparatus, as well as a few articles in Home Power from years prior. You had asked me about this before, but I'm not sure if I explained it properly. 



February 27 2021 4:11PM


By the way, I found this last night. Same exact strategy that I've been discussing when I refer to "water farming." Although my system would be direct drive without the usage of electricity or toxic refrigerant, the concept is identical. My source of cooling would be piped underground (geothermal) until a proper lake could be formed that was deep enough to cool the piping from its own depth. I knew someone out there had to be working on something similar... and here it is. Ya know, the only technology that I haven't really been able to find a similar device being conceived is a Holy Grail. Go figure...